Former Frasier star Kelsey Grammer's eldest kids were the result of terrible relationships that were doomed from the start.
The beloved TV star admits he made a number of terrible romance blunders at the height of his drug and alcohol abuse.
He tells Parade magazine, "I'm attracted to threshold experiences, to chaos, insanity, mayhem, so I was drawn to women who were dramatic, emotional and unpredictable, with great sexual energy.
"I liked surprises. I liked women who could be demonstrative, demanding, socially unacceptable."
Grammer claims, looking back, most of his romances were terrible - and the only good he got out of them were great kids.
His first daughter, Spencer, now 23, was the product of a messy two year marriage to dancer Doreen Alderman, while his teenage daughter Greer was from make-up artist Barrie Buckner.
Grammer is now happily married to his third wife, Camille.